{"id":791,"date":"2011-07-26T12:21:28","date_gmt":"2011-07-26T19:21:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/?p=791"},"modified":"2011-07-31T11:56:45","modified_gmt":"2011-07-31T18:56:45","slug":"disc-brakes-and-reaction-arm-system","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/2011\/07\/26\/disc-brakes-and-reaction-arm-system\/","title":{"rendered":"Disc brakes and reaction arm system"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I know this will be upsetting to some GMC enthusiasts but the GMC motorhome has some design flaws &#8211; specifically in the braking.\u00a0 They did put disc brakes on the front wheels but left drums in the back &#8211; drum brakes are not very efficient or safe compared to discs.\u00a0 It can be really exciting if you need to stop an original design GMC quickly.\u00a0 One time we were climbing and descending steep mountain passes &#8211; several in one day &#8211; and after we had finished the descent from over 8000 feet on a series of tight switch-backs the brakes failed completely from the heat generated by the drum brakes.<\/p>\n<p>Another issue with the design is that the middle wheels are suspended on forward facing arms that tend to lift the frame during hard braking &#8211; hard for some to understand but true.\u00a0 The problem is solved using a system called the &#8220;reaction-arm&#8221; invented by Chuck Aulgur and designed by Rick Flanagan for Jim Kanomata at Applied GMC in Fremont, CA.\u00a0 I had test driven a coach (Rick Flanagan&#8217;s) equipped with the reaction-arm system at the GMCWS rally in Auburn, CA last year (2010).\u00a0 The difference between his coach&#8217;s stopping ability and mine was dramatic.\u00a0 His coach stopped like a new car.<\/p>\n<p>The reaction arm system must be installed over disc brakes.\u00a0 The combined kits &#8211; 4 disc brakes and the reaction-arm &#8211; are very expensive but I hate worrying about my brakes, especially going down long hills with only a 3-speed automatic to help slow me down.<\/p>\n<p>            \n\t\t<div class=\"ngg-gallery-singlepic-image ngg-left\" style=\"max-width: 320px\">\n\t\t\t    \t<a href=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4024.jpg\"\n\t\t     title=\"\"\n             data-src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4024.jpg\"\n             data-thumbnail=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/thumbs\/thumbs_img_4024.jpg\"\n             data-image-id=\"609\"\n             data-title=\"End of day 2 - drums removed and torque boxes installed\"\n             data-description=\"\"\n             target='_self'\n             class=\"shutterset_6ddd49ab2a6d39fc815696bd054d419c\">\n            <img class=\"ngg-singlepic\"\n             src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/cache\/img_4024.jpg-nggid03609-ngg0dyn-320x240x100-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg\"\n             alt=\"End of day 2 - drums removed and torque boxes installed\"\n             title=\"End of day 2 - drums removed and torque boxes installed\"\n              width=\"320\"               \/>\n    \t<\/a>\n\t\t      <\/div>\n        I bought both kits from Applied GMC and began installing them on Wednesday, July 20th.\u00a0 I had planned to install them myself &#8211; how hard could it be? &#8211; but was pretty apprehensive.\u00a0 Applied GMC estimated it would take them &#8220;about 2 days&#8221; if they did it but I didn&#8217;t or couldn&#8217;t spend that kind of money on top of the parts.\u00a0 Paul Cloutier told me that he did it in 3 days with help from a friend only on the first day.\u00a0 When I showed up at our storage space with the parts a young mechanic named George expressed enthusiastic interest in helping me do the installation.\u00a0 We worked out a very fair hourly rate for him &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t afford to not hire him &#8211; so he has helped me every day.\u00a0 &#8220;Helping me&#8221; is actually: he does it with my help and supervision.\u00a0 George is a very smart, hard-working guy who knows what he is doing &#8211; I got lucky.<\/p>\n<p>            \n\t\t<div class=\"ngg-gallery-singlepic-image ngg-left\" style=\"max-width: 320px\">\n\t\t\t    \t<a href=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4026.jpg\"\n\t\t     title=\"\"\n             data-src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4026.jpg\"\n             data-thumbnail=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/thumbs\/thumbs_img_4026.jpg\"\n             data-image-id=\"611\"\n             data-title=\"Middle of day 2 - sway bars installed\"\n             data-description=\"\"\n             target='_self'\n             class=\"shutterset_b85483d3dcb0336a3e43f672e3228117\">\n            <img class=\"ngg-singlepic\"\n             src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/cache\/img_4026.jpg-nggid03611-ngg0dyn-320x240x100-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg\"\n             alt=\"Middle of day 2 - sway bars installed\"\n             title=\"Middle of day 2 - sway bars installed\"\n              width=\"320\"               \/>\n    \t<\/a>\n\t\t      <\/div>\n                     \n\t\t<div class=\"ngg-gallery-singlepic-image ngg-right\" style=\"max-width: 320px\">\n\t\t\t    \t<a href=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4027.jpg\"\n\t\t     title=\"\"\n             data-src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4027.jpg\"\n             data-thumbnail=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/thumbs\/thumbs_img_4027.jpg\"\n             data-image-id=\"612\"\n             data-title=\"Sway bar and torque box connection - and George\"\n             data-description=\"\"\n             target='_self'\n             class=\"shutterset_5de524db50f244997b01301be1609357\">\n            <img class=\"ngg-singlepic\"\n             src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/cache\/img_4027.jpg-nggid03612-ngg0dyn-320x240x100-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg\"\n             alt=\"Sway bar and torque box connection - and George\"\n             title=\"Sway bar and torque box connection - and George\"\n              width=\"320\"               \/>\n    \t<\/a>\n\t\t      <\/div>\n        On the first day my hope was to get the parts sorted and the coach up on jack stands so I could start work on Thursday.\u00a0 With George&#8217;s help we not only got it up on stands but got the drum brakes removed and the coach ready for installation of the new hardware &#8211; all in 4 hours.\u00a0 The second day we got the torque boxes (part of the reaction-arm system) installed and the emergency brakes removed &#8211; another 4 hours.\u00a0             \n\t\t<div class=\"ngg-gallery-singlepic-image ngg-right\" style=\"max-width: 320px\">\n\t\t\t    \t<a href=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4029.jpg\"\n\t\t     title=\"\"\n             data-src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4029.jpg\"\n             data-thumbnail=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/thumbs\/thumbs_img_4029.jpg\"\n             data-image-id=\"614\"\n             data-title=\"Disc and hub installed\"\n             data-description=\"\"\n             target='_self'\n             class=\"shutterset_0a0efe88f3d43217b02633b8255aa95e\">\n            <img class=\"ngg-singlepic\"\n             src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/cache\/img_4029.jpg-nggid03614-ngg0dyn-320x240x100-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg\"\n             alt=\"Disc and hub installed\"\n             title=\"Disc and hub installed\"\n              width=\"320\"               \/>\n    \t<\/a>\n\t\t      <\/div>\n        On the third day, Friday, we got the sway bars (more reaction-arm stuff), the hubs and discs, and the calipers installed &#8211; 5 hours.             \n\t\t<div class=\"ngg-gallery-singlepic-image ngg-left\" style=\"max-width: 320px\">\n\t\t\t    \t<a href=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4030.jpg\"\n\t\t     title=\"\"\n             data-src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4030.jpg\"\n             data-thumbnail=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/thumbs\/thumbs_img_4030.jpg\"\n             data-image-id=\"615\"\n             data-title=\"Middle wheel caliper installed\"\n             data-description=\"\"\n             target='_self'\n             class=\"shutterset_b2e70a36ea91d637d3427850beb735ef\">\n            <img class=\"ngg-singlepic\"\n             src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/cache\/img_4030.jpg-nggid03615-ngg0dyn-320x240x100-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg\"\n             alt=\"Middle wheel caliper installed\"\n             title=\"Middle wheel caliper installed\"\n              width=\"320\"               \/>\n    \t<\/a>\n\t\t      <\/div>\n                     \n\t\t<div class=\"ngg-gallery-singlepic-image ngg-right\" style=\"max-width: 320px\">\n\t\t\t    \t<a href=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4031.jpg\"\n\t\t     title=\"\"\n             data-src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4031.jpg\"\n             data-thumbnail=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/thumbs\/thumbs_img_4031.jpg\"\n             data-image-id=\"616\"\n             data-title=\"Rear wheel caliper installed\"\n             data-description=\"\"\n             target='_self'\n             class=\"shutterset_924154dfc6e7c17c3dbecfce5d515979\">\n            <img class=\"ngg-singlepic\"\n             src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/cache\/img_4031.jpg-nggid03616-ngg0dyn-320x240x100-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg\"\n             alt=\"Rear wheel caliper installed\"\n             title=\"Rear wheel caliper installed\"\n              width=\"320\"               \/>\n    \t<\/a>\n\t\t      <\/div>\n        <\/p>\n<p>            \n\t\t<div class=\"ngg-gallery-singlepic-image ngg-left\" style=\"max-width: 320px\">\n\t\t\t    \t<a href=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4033.jpg\"\n\t\t     title=\"\"\n             data-src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4033.jpg\"\n             data-thumbnail=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/thumbs\/thumbs_img_4033.jpg\"\n             data-image-id=\"617\"\n             data-title=\"Proportioning valve almost complete\"\n             data-description=\"\"\n             target='_self'\n             class=\"shutterset_3ed600748f536442f50bbefcc881f850\">\n            <img class=\"ngg-singlepic\"\n             src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/cache\/img_4033.jpg-nggid03617-ngg0dyn-320x240x100-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg\"\n             alt=\"Proportioning valve almost complete\"\n             title=\"Proportioning valve almost complete\"\n              width=\"320\"               \/>\n    \t<\/a>\n\t\t      <\/div>\n        Monday we got master cylinder and the proportioning valve installed.\u00a0 The new master cylinder is big compared to the OEM but it fits perfectly and the push rod is already the correct length.\u00a0 The proportioning valve is another perfect match for the original.\u00a0 Lots of penetrating oil needed along with some encouragement from George.\u00a0 George also did a great job plumbing the line lock.\u00a0 Of course, I did a great job making a mounting bracket with suggestions from George.\u00a0 George is a good mechanic and he says his real skill is in electronics.            \n\t\t<div class=\"ngg-gallery-singlepic-image ngg-left\" style=\"max-width: 320px\">\n\t\t\t    \t<a href=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4035.jpg\"\n\t\t     title=\"\"\n             data-src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4035.jpg\"\n             data-thumbnail=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/thumbs\/thumbs_img_4035.jpg\"\n             data-image-id=\"618\"\n             data-title=\"I couple of pieces of aluminum angle and the original spacer and bolts\"\n             data-description=\"\"\n             target='_self'\n             class=\"shutterset_e57dd9c55dfed60eb998d9af7169499e\">\n            <img class=\"ngg-singlepic\"\n             src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/cache\/img_4035.jpg-nggid03618-ngg0dyn-320x240x100-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg\"\n             alt=\"I couple of pieces of aluminum angle and the original spacer and bolts\"\n             title=\"I couple of pieces of aluminum angle and the original spacer and bolts\"\n              width=\"320\"               \/>\n    \t<\/a>\n\t\t      <\/div>\n                     \n\t\t<div class=\"ngg-gallery-singlepic-image ngg-right\" style=\"max-width: 320px\">\n\t\t\t    \t<a href=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4036.jpg\"\n\t\t     title=\"\"\n             data-src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/img_4036.jpg\"\n             data-thumbnail=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/thumbs\/thumbs_img_4036.jpg\"\n             data-image-id=\"619\"\n             data-title=\"Line lock using original hole, spacer and bolts\"\n             data-description=\"\"\n             target='_self'\n             class=\"shutterset_11b8608bf4d722cd07f150f0dcc679fd\">\n            <img class=\"ngg-singlepic\"\n             src=\"http:\/\/minniebiz.com\/gmcmotorhome\/wp-content\/gallery\/discs-and-reaction-arm\/cache\/img_4036.jpg-nggid03619-ngg0dyn-320x240x100-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg\"\n             alt=\"Line lock using original hole, spacer and bolts\"\n             title=\"Line lock using original hole, spacer and bolts\"\n              width=\"320\"               \/>\n    \t<\/a>\n\t\t      <\/div>\n        .<\/p>\n<p>The test drive was less than satisfactory.\u00a0 It had to be air in the lines because everything seemed to be perfect.\u00a0 After 6 hours both of us were tired and hot so we decided to come back on Tuesday for a second bleeding and some unrelated maintenance (greasing the front bearings via the zerk fittings JimK installed for me last year).\u00a0 On Monday night I happened to tell JimK about the bleeding issue &#8211; it shouldn&#8217;t still have air in it &#8211; and he told me about the instructions that I forgot about: a special procedure for the calipers.<\/p>\n<p>On Tuesday a.m. George and I followed the procedure and got air out of 3 of the 4 calipers.\u00a0 Brakes work much better now.\u00a0 I ordered some new woven SS hoses for the front and some EBC pads.\u00a0 When they come in we will finish the installation.\u00a0 For now I am saying it is &#8216;done&#8217; and I will move on to making a new dinette table to go with the Honda seats I installed last summer.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>On Friday, July 29th, I finally got the job done.\u00a0 Put new SS braided hoses and EBC pads on the front.\u00a0 Stops great but the line lock doesn&#8217;t work and I don&#8217;t know why.\u00a0 Maybe the back brakes still need to be bled or maybe the line lock itself is bad.\u00a0 I will find out later &#8211; done for now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"facebook\"><a 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